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8 Replies ・ Started by Sombrero1 at 2024-10-01 10:50:45 UTC ・ Last reply by Sombrero1 at 2024-10-31 18:35:00 UTC

昂 - 昴 ?

So 昴 is used to refer to the Pleiades star cluser a.o. , but I've just also found 昂 in it's stead. 昂 is listed as "The pleiades" in the GG5 (新和英大辞典 第5版), but nowhere else. Thought I'd post this here before proposing an edit in jmdict because I might be missing something here? As far as I know those 2 kanji don't seem to be variants of each other?

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Sombrero1 at 2024-10-01 10:55:15 UTC

Okay they might actually be variants

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Leebo at 2024-10-01 12:30:01 UTC

For what it's worth, Kanjipedia (maintained by the organization that runs the Kanji Kentei) has separate, non-overlapping entries for them, except to point out that they look similar and to be careful not to confuse them.

https://www.kanjipedia.jp/kanji/0002197100
https://www.kanjipedia.jp/kanji/0006433000

Were you able to find any other sources that they are variants?

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WillBridge at 2024-10-01 13:27:12 UTC

I checked Kanjikai.

昂 has 昻 listed as a variant.
昴 on the other hand has 𣆻 listed as a variant.
But they are separate entries.

It seems that 昴 is actually the Pleiades star cluster and the Green Godess probably made a mistake. 昂 only has a meaning similar to 高 as far as I can see.

Not really related to the Pleiades meaning, but here's a short excerpt I found in one of my dictionaries:
昴」は「昂」と間違えられやすい。
1986年、マラソン競技で著名な男子選手が子供に「昴」と名付けようとしたところ、常用漢字でも人名用漢字でもなかったため、代わりに「昂」(81年に人名用漢字)で出生届を出すというニュースが話題となった。その後「昴」は90年に人名用漢字になっている。人名確認としては生まれた年から誤りを疑うこともある。
昴 木村昴(声優。1990~)
昂 根尾昂(野球選手。2000~)、則本昂大(野球選手。1990~)

I searched the web for a source on this story and found: https://www.ytv.co.jp/michiura/time/2018/10/post-4506.html
Therefore I think they should not be treated as variants.

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Sombrero1 at 2024-10-01 15:47:44 UTC

Interesting story. I could also find "昂 has 昻 listed as a variant.
昴 on the other hand has 𣆻 listed as a variant" on other sites like https://kanji.jitenon.jp . All I really had to go off, was this entry https://imgur.com/a/OGErdEq , and it's also the only entry on this (at least from what I could find). But yes I agree, they don't seem to be variants.

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WillBridge at 2024-10-02 23:09:59 UTC

Seems like an error then. I sent an email to Kenkyusha's editorial department to inquire. If they reply with anything I'll post it here.

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Sombrero1 at 2024-10-31 16:43:30 UTC

Anything new?

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WillBridge at 2024-10-31 18:17:03 UTC

Nothing on my end at least. Situation seems quite clear cut to me, maybe they didn't bother with answering. I can try again soon-ish though. Or maybe someone else can try. But ultimately this is akin to a little typo.

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Sombrero1 at 2024-10-31 18:35:00 UTC

Yea I guessed as much. No need to inquire further imo, if they didnt respond first time. Thanks

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