4 Replies ・ Started by maB at 2021-10-04 20:45:11 UTC ・ Last reply by MarcusR at 2021-10-05 03:09:55 UTC

Is there an easy way to find the counterpart in (in)transitive verb pairs?

E.g. 割る、割れる etc.

jakobd2 at 2021-10-04 21:13:58 UTC

Well, there are no hard rules, so to answer your question: no, there isn't one easy way to get to the other verb. But, there are several patterns. Check out https://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/jitadoushi.html (and also check out the rest of this website if you haven't yet) for a general overview table that has the most common verbs and then take a look at http://learnjapaneseonline.info/2016/12/27/mastering-transitivity-pairs-remembering-japanese-transitive-and-intransitive-verbs-the-easy-way/ this website has some tips that can help you with getting familiar with these pairs.

maB at 2021-10-04 22:17:41 UTC

Thanks, I'll check those resources.
Wouldn't it make sense for jisho.org to point to the respective counterpart in a pair? E.g. in entry 割る something like "See also: 割れる". Or is that not possible since the information comes from other databases?

Leebo at 2021-10-04 22:25:56 UTC

There's nothing stopping the creator from adding something like that himself from a technical standpoint. I just doubt he would find manually categorizing thousands of verbs and linking them up to be an effective use of time. Sure, anyone can think of a handful of examples off the top of their head, but actually linking up everything definitively would be a massive undertaking.

MarcusR at 2021-10-05 03:09:55 UTC

We're discussing making changes to how we do cross-references on the JMdict Gtihub: https://github.com/JMdictProject/JMdictIssues/issues/39

I've added a link to your message in that thread.

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