6 Replies ・ Started by Deffy at 2020-10-29 20:43:22 UTC ・ Last reply by Gill at 2022-01-18 03:29:55 UTC
This is a discussion about そう

Question about the example sentence for this word


I'm a bit confused about the example sentence for そう:
Now the description of そう states it is used in conjunction with the stem form of a verb.
The stem form of 降りる is 降[お]り, but the sentence suggests it's 降[ふ]り instead (furi- rather than ori-).

I looked up 降[ふ]り on Jisho and apparently it means "rainfall" in this form, but it is a noun and not verb... so I'm not sure whether there's a mistake in the sentence and the correct pronounciation is 降[お]りそう or I'm missing something - I would appreciate an explanation or a link.

Thank you!

Leebo at 2020-10-29 20:55:15 UTC

But as you said, it's used with the stem form. So you start with ふる and you make the stem, ふり. ふり is the stem form of ふる. おりる means "to get off" or "to descend." When talking about rain you use ふる.

Deffy at 2020-10-29 21:45:20 UTC


I see, now it makes sense. I didn't realize 降りる and 降る had the same stem (ふり). Thank you for the explanation!

Leebo at 2020-10-29 22:46:42 UTC

Yes, the stems of 降りる and 降る both look like 降り, so you have to use context to decide if it should be read おり or ふり.

Gill at 2022-01-17 23:21:21 UTC


I found this sentence, とびこせそうな 場所で バタンを 押すか、
I think it is this そう, bcause な after it can indicate word before it is na-adjectives.
but とびこせ is verb in imperative form , not in stem form, how is that so ?
or my understanding is wrong ?
I appreciate your replay. Thank you!

Leebo at 2022-01-17 23:43:56 UTC

とびこせ is the stem of とびこせる, which is the potential form of とびこす.

とびこす (to leap over)
とびこせる (to be able to leap over)
とびこせそう (seem to be able to leap over)
とびこせそうな場所 (a place you seem to be able to leap over)

Gill at 2022-01-18 03:29:55 UTC

I thought 飛び越し is the verb only stem form. Never knew about potential stem form, thank you.

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