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8 Replies ・ Started by iotg9 at 2020-01-21 21:24:27 UTC ・ Last reply by Kimtaro Admin at 2020-02-06 07:35:37 UTC

Best way to report audio mistakes?

I found a mistake with the audio for the word 残す. The speaker says it with 頭高型 pitch accent but it should be 中高型. Where do I report errors like this?

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Leebo at 2020-01-21 23:54:31 UTC

You're talking about the "play audio" link here? https://jisho.org/search/%E6%AE%8B%E3%81%99

That sounds like nakadaka to me.

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iotg9 at 2020-01-22 00:34:18 UTC

Sorry I misspoke in my original post, I mean't that it sounded like 平板型 (heiban) not 頭高型. Anyway, either I trained my ear all wrong or that audio link right there is heiban, I'm not a native speaker so I definitely could be mistaken but I don't think I am. Unfortunately I don't know a native I can ask at this time though. 滑る is the same to me. If you have a well trained ear or are a native and can explain what I am not hearing, can you expain?

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iotg9 at 2020-01-22 00:39:08 UTC

To clarify, it is my understanding that pitch drops in Japanese should be very significant, and that audio sounds a lot more like the very slight pitch dropping that happens normally in heiban words. The pronounciations here https://forvo.com/word/%E6%AE%8B%E3%81%99/#ja are a lot more obviously nakadaka.

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Leebo at 2020-01-22 01:54:17 UTC

I think I can kind of hear what you mean, but to me it still doesn't reach the level of heiban. Obviously it's possible to pronounce the accent with more of a drop as well.

I'm not sure if my ear is "well trained" by what you'd consider "well trained," but I do study and practice pitch accent as part of my study regimen. I can ask a native later.

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iotg9 at 2020-01-22 02:06:00 UTC

Please do ask, I'd appreciate it. Right now I still think the audio on Jisho is wrong and would like to be able to report it somewhere.

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Leebo at 2020-01-22 02:16:04 UTC

All of the audio comes from WaniKani, which is recorded by native speakers. Of course, it's possible for them to make a mistake in recording something, but I believe that audio file is actually one of the old recordings. WaniKani hired two new voice actors to re-record all of the audio on the site to make everything more consistent (since the old recordings had inconsistencies in volume and audio quality).

So, I assume at some point the creator of Jisho might import all of that new audio, or something, but there's nothing to tell WaniKani about on their end.

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Kimtaro Admin at 2020-02-06 06:34:50 UTC

Yes, Jisho uses the old WaniKani recordings, and I need to update to the new ones. Unfortunately the new audio requires me to write a new importer, and as is probably known by now I am very slow when it comes to Jisho development (/0 ̄) ファ~ネムイ

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Kimtaro Admin at 2020-02-06 07:35:37 UTC

I forgot to mention that OJAD is a great resource for confirming pitch accents: http://www.gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/search/index/word:残す

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