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9 Replies ・ Started by dylpickles at 2018-10-01 19:15:14 UTC ・ Last reply by Leebo at 2018-10-06 04:35:19 UTC

Not sure what my sentence is saying.

Hello. I'm pretty new to Japanese, and I'm trying to translate a sentence from a book and can't understand exactly what my sentence is saying. This sentence on Jisho seems to match my sentence the best. My sentence is: 太陽の下では、地球が黄昏れていた。

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Leebo at 2018-10-01 21:14:08 UTC

What makes you say that these two sentences "match"? To me, they don't appear to have anything in common.

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dylpickles at 2018-10-02 00:47:49 UTC

The ending few particles:れていた。I was thinking that they might follow the same idea or conjugation pattern.

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dylpickles at 2018-10-02 01:18:10 UTC

Is the ending here just 黄昏れる conjugated to teita?

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Leebo at 2018-10-02 09:45:26 UTC

Sure, both sentences superficially end in ていた.

Though it's not clear to me that they are actually being used the same way.

And including the れ in there as an example of them being the same conjugation is going too far. For 閉鎖される, される is the passive form of する. That's what the れ is part of.

For 黄昏れる, it's just in the standard form of the verb. It's not passive or anything. The word just happens to include a れ.

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dylpickles at 2018-10-02 12:50:18 UTC

What about the た at the back? Does that matter? Also, thank you so much for helping me with this.

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Leebo at 2018-10-02 13:50:57 UTC

Well, た is an auxiliary verb that, in this case, means the actions were completed in the past.

https://jisho.org/word/%E3%81%9F

That's probably a strange sounding way to put that, but I'm trying to be careful about how I word it. So, yes, in both sentences, we know that they ended before the speaker uttered them.

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Leebo at 2018-10-02 13:52:17 UTC

Sorry, I can't edit my post... the ACTIONS ended before the speaker uttered the sentence. Obviously a sentence can't end before it's uttered, haha.

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dylpickles at 2018-10-04 14:57:52 UTC

But do you know which conjugation is being used here? I can't find one that includes the い. Is it there just to like introduce the た?

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Leebo at 2018-10-06 04:35:19 UTC

The verb being conjugated is いる. In the past it becomes いた. The main verb is in the て form, and then いる follows it.

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