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15 Replies ・ Started by Theus220195 at 2020-08-31 22:16:29 UTC ・ Last reply by Juanpv at 2021-06-17 21:22:03 UTC

Mangás raw

I would like a site to read manga in Japanese, but on many sites I find only "experimental reading" that gives access to only one chapter. I would like to find "Dragon ball Super" can someone help me?

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irisinabottle at 2020-09-04 06:46:55 UTC

It's not "experimental reading," they're samples for the products themselves.
I understand it sucks not being able to have access to Japanese books, but reading for free online on illegal sites is well, illegal. As someone who works in the anime/manga/game industry in Japan, let me just tell you that this is a dick move.
You can purchase Dragon Ball Super digitally in Japanese through the following sites:

On Amazon Kindle - https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9C%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E8%B6%85-1-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9DIGITAL-%E3%81%A8%E3%82%88%E3%81%9F%E3%82%8D%E3%81%86-ebook/dp/B01C84248G

On Book Live - https://sp.handycomic.jp/product/index/title_id/372913

On Comic Cmoa - https://www.cmoa.jp/title/113072/

For physical copies

Kinokuniya USA has it
https://united-states.kinokuniya.com/bw/9784088806617

And while I don't suggest it because the prices are insane, some ebay sellers have it
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragonball-Super-Vol-1-Japanese-Manga-Dragon-Ball-Super-Japan-Import-NEW/232263964040?hash=item361402d588:g:I9IAAOSwB-1Yv53r

Please be cool and support the official release!
Also I wouldn't suggest looking for pirated stuff by posting in forums.

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Theus220195 at 2020-09-04 21:57:22 UTC

I understand that it is not the best to go after "piracy", but if I have no money, it is my only option.

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Fredora at 2020-09-04 22:09:13 UTC

Get a job.

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irisinabottle at 2020-09-05 04:43:17 UTC

Fedora > High five
Theus220195 - Entertainment is not a right, it is a privilege. You have the right to save up money and buy it legally when you have money.
I also did not have access to cheap manga when I was a student, but I amassed over 1000 manga by working part-time, and getting presents from family members before that.
By pirating, you are disrespecting the creators, publishers, distributors, and businesses by taking away from their livelihood. I once worked at an anime business that was literally shut down due to lack of sales due to piracy. Have some respect.

You will not die if you cannot read the Japanese version. No one has a gun to your head. You do have a choice.

Just as a heads up, I know a lot of official translators and entertainment industry members use this site as a resource. It doesn’t make us happy to see this kind of stuff being posted so blatantly. We’d really appreciate it if you made it possible for us to continue to provide content.

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Kimtaro Admin at 2020-09-05 23:00:43 UTC

Thank you @irisinabottle for providing links to proper stores, and for explaining why piracy hurts people like you in the industry.

Please do not use this forum for asking for pirated material or linking to pirated material. I know there are no forum rules listed, but that is one rule that would be on there if I were to write up a set of rules.

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Theus220195 at 2020-09-07 00:47:42 UTC

@Kimtaro ok. Sorry me.

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mynameisblie at 2020-09-12 09:27:18 UTC

i read your comments and it made me sad!
i know perfectly about writers rights and i know its such an important issue, but i live in a country where i cant have access to global banks so there s no golden cards, i cant pay internationally even if i get a job!(which i have)
i dont have a friend abroad to send me stuff and then i pay them back and even if i had, i should have payed 23 times! its how "Inflation and sanctions" works for people. BUT i try my best to keep up with the writers right and go to legal pages. but the thing that made me sad was your judmentall words. please consider others situations and feelings as well.

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irisinabottle at 2020-09-15 07:49:38 UTC

mynameisblie ‐> Sorry. I'm sick of people taking entertainment for granted and considering it a right as opposed to a privilege. You will not die without manga. It is not a necessity. As someone who, as I mentioned before, lost my means of living, my job, due to piracy, I have no sympathy.

Also, the manga mentioned is available already in English and a ton of other languages.

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AKIRA at 2020-09-29 21:27:52 UTC

Personally I work as a mangaka and animator in the anime industry, but Im in the middle when it comes to the talk of pirating. For those who feel offended on EITHER SIDE I would recommend listening to a podcast "TRASH TASTE ep 13 Uncovering the Secrets Behind Anime Piracy." It has an interesting take.
However, a question is a question and I will tell you where you can find an answer. Reddit or deep dive google search. (Im sure there has been plenty of people who are in the same boat as you. )

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pseudo at 2021-05-21 15:16:51 UTC

While I understand where you're coming from, Iris, you're really not helping your cause by lashing out at people because of your circumstances. I made an account to tell you this.

You'll find that people wont be sympathetic to your argument that entertainment isn't a right. In the places where piracy is most rampant, it's often impossible to find a job that pays enough to feed and clothe their family, keep a roof over their head, etc. Let alone afford novelties like manga and anime. They're not going to care about you losing your job which probably offered better benefits than what they can make in a year. And even if it didn't, then you should have at least some basic empathy towards them as they are in the same place you were.

Both sides have their reasons for being fired up about this, but I think you're being quite insensitive yourself.

Just my two cents wandering into this conversation. Good luck to the lad that's trying his hand at Japanese despite his circumstances.

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Juanpv at 2021-06-15 01:07:04 UTC

Plus animelon isn't illegal, and it is considered fair use.

https://imgur.com/a/6gLDkCc

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Leebo at 2021-06-15 02:55:55 UTC

@Juanpv I don't think it's anyone's place to tell the owner and creator of this site that it should "not be a super good legal place but a useful one". It's not your call to tell the owner of the site what legal standard he should hold the forum to.

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Juanpv at 2021-06-15 03:58:14 UTC

The purpose of the comment is not to generate a fight with the creator of this site, but to help more people trying to learn japanese. Im sorry if the message was not clear or if it was misunderstood😎👍

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jakobd2 at 2021-06-15 11:40:36 UTC

@Juanpv: This is not a forum for Japanese learning, it's a forum for a Japanese dictionary site. While the owner hasn't really defined what topics are and aren't to be discussed, that makes a difference.

Also, I don't think anyone would consider what sites like Animelon is doing "Fair Use" under any country's copyright laws. At least not anyone that has at least a small understanding of what copyright law actually is and how it functions, which apparently isn't everyone. I see copyright law, patent law and trademark law (which are all distinct legal concepts) being conflated and misinterpreted all the time. But just to give you a primer: Breaking copyright law and afterwards saying "I didn't intend to break the law" is akin to dine and dash and when questioned about it saying "I didn't intend to not pay".

So no, you're not being misunderstood. A certain resource can be both helpful to learning and not operate legally at the same time. Nobody is saying that native material isn't really helpful. That doesn't make it ok, though.

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Juanpv at 2021-06-17 21:22:03 UTC

You know what? just search it in google @Theus220195

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